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	Comments on: How Materialism posing as Mysticism subverts Spirituality and limits Consciousness	</title>
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		By: Adoni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adoni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the article Matthew. This materialistic connected society we live in makes it very hard to realize our true selves. A lot of distractions, misinformation, and people selling everything under whatever name to win a few bucks. All of them are unconscious and they are counting on us being unconscious as well. 
I have left my job a couple weeks ago and turned another offer down in a big city, because it impedes my happiness , my well-being and self-realization. Changing careers to go a direction that is in harmony with my happiness (reflexology). No where did I read it, no where was it sold to me, just based on my experience, and listening to a long forgotten voice inside me.  It is encouraging to see that there is a website like the Conscious Reporter that publishes articles which are really important to helping us realize to what point we let society manipulate us, and to what point it is acceptable for people in society to do this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the article Matthew. This materialistic connected society we live in makes it very hard to realize our true selves. A lot of distractions, misinformation, and people selling everything under whatever name to win a few bucks. All of them are unconscious and they are counting on us being unconscious as well.<br />
I have left my job a couple weeks ago and turned another offer down in a big city, because it impedes my happiness , my well-being and self-realization. Changing careers to go a direction that is in harmony with my happiness (reflexology). No where did I read it, no where was it sold to me, just based on my experience, and listening to a long forgotten voice inside me.  It is encouraging to see that there is a website like the Conscious Reporter that publishes articles which are really important to helping us realize to what point we let society manipulate us, and to what point it is acceptable for people in society to do this.</p>
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		By: zarcon		</title>
		<link>https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-23867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zarcon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-879&quot;&gt;rlmorlan&lt;/a&gt;.

You can defeat all that by being generous to those in need around you especially those you do not like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-879">rlmorlan</a>.</p>
<p>You can defeat all that by being generous to those in need around you especially those you do not like.</p>
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		By: What Would You Take With You To The Afterlife? &#8211; Shift Frequency		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Would You Take With You To The Afterlife? &#8211; Shift Frequency]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2015 22:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] our modern culture drifting more and more into shallow short-sighted materialism and faux metaphysics, the need to re-discover and live this deeper purpose to life, so cherished by the ancients, is [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] our modern culture drifting more and more into shallow short-sighted materialism and faux metaphysics, the need to re-discover and live this deeper purpose to life, so cherished by the ancients, is [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: DavidH		</title>
		<link>https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4543</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4504&quot;&gt;Josh Bertetta&lt;/a&gt;.

As you imply Josh and I agree, &quot;truer&quot; includes being not for profit, and obviously that changes when it becomes commercial. The selling corrupts it let alone any changes or omissions made to the original to make it more commercial so I choose to avoid those things.

However, I think there is still a value in exploring consciousness and questioning reality and looking for the answers to the big questions about life as a personal spiritual search without having an ego about being a spiritual person whilst avoiding the commercial spirituality trap. 

Unfortunately a lot of people on this planet at this time are not interested otherwise if they were it would just be the norm of life and no need for a special word like &quot;spiritual&quot; to describe it. So what you seem to be really bemoaning is the state of this world and the need for a label of spiritual and the commercialisation of it but that does not wipe out ones own inner search through non-commercial means.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4504">Josh Bertetta</a>.</p>
<p>As you imply Josh and I agree, &#8220;truer&#8221; includes being not for profit, and obviously that changes when it becomes commercial. The selling corrupts it let alone any changes or omissions made to the original to make it more commercial so I choose to avoid those things.</p>
<p>However, I think there is still a value in exploring consciousness and questioning reality and looking for the answers to the big questions about life as a personal spiritual search without having an ego about being a spiritual person whilst avoiding the commercial spirituality trap. </p>
<p>Unfortunately a lot of people on this planet at this time are not interested otherwise if they were it would just be the norm of life and no need for a special word like &#8220;spiritual&#8221; to describe it. So what you seem to be really bemoaning is the state of this world and the need for a label of spiritual and the commercialisation of it but that does not wipe out ones own inner search through non-commercial means.</p>
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		By: Josh Bertetta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Bertetta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 03:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4105&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes David I agree with you, but commercial spirituality can easily absorb what you call &quot;truer altruistic spirituality.&quot; Look what it&#039;s done to yoga. Yoga is a multi-billion dollar business, when in its &quot;truer&quot; form (whatever that means) it was a means of rejecting society and its norms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4105">David</a>.</p>
<p>Yes David I agree with you, but commercial spirituality can easily absorb what you call &#8220;truer altruistic spirituality.&#8221; Look what it&#8217;s done to yoga. Yoga is a multi-billion dollar business, when in its &#8220;truer&#8221; form (whatever that means) it was a means of rejecting society and its norms.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4073&quot;&gt;Josh Bertetta&lt;/a&gt;.

hi Josh, I find what you are saying to apply more to commercial spirituality rather than a truer altruistic spirituality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4073">Josh Bertetta</a>.</p>
<p>hi Josh, I find what you are saying to apply more to commercial spirituality rather than a truer altruistic spirituality.</p>
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		By: Blake		</title>
		<link>https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4080</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 13:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4073&quot;&gt;Josh Bertetta&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Josh,

Some of my thoughts. I think when someone says yellow bird, red car or a Ralph Lauren t-shirt then other people will know what that person is talking about. Even when someone says I felt angry in traffic or I was nervous just before a job interview then people would still know what you&#039;re talking about. But when you experience or go through things that are not so common to an everyday person&#039;s life and try to describe it to them, then they might not know what you&#039;re talking about. Also there&#039;s often a lack of terminology for it. Then they&#039;ll have to try to understand you as best as they can through the things they&#039;ve experienced themselves. When someone says &#039;God&#039; for example the images that come up in one&#039;s mind and their understanding can be vary greatly from person to person.

When the writer of this article mentions spirituality he might mean a certain type of spirituality, or use the term in the way it is most commonly understood.
I do also think, unfortunately, that many people misuse the term spirituality as what they&#039;re doing is something different. This kind of misleads and confuses people and ruins words/language in my opinion. Perhaps also because as a society we&#039;re not so focused on spiritual things we correspondingly lack words to describe the differences more accurately.

However, things beyond the ordinary, life beyond the body, feelings beyond what we normally feel, divine beings, supernatural events, inner change, a different way of perceiving life, a journey to reach higher things (etc.) do exist. And when talking about these things you can only use the known words that best describe it, if you want people to (kind of) understand what you&#039;re saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4073">Josh Bertetta</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Josh,</p>
<p>Some of my thoughts. I think when someone says yellow bird, red car or a Ralph Lauren t-shirt then other people will know what that person is talking about. Even when someone says I felt angry in traffic or I was nervous just before a job interview then people would still know what you&#8217;re talking about. But when you experience or go through things that are not so common to an everyday person&#8217;s life and try to describe it to them, then they might not know what you&#8217;re talking about. Also there&#8217;s often a lack of terminology for it. Then they&#8217;ll have to try to understand you as best as they can through the things they&#8217;ve experienced themselves. When someone says &#8216;God&#8217; for example the images that come up in one&#8217;s mind and their understanding can be vary greatly from person to person.</p>
<p>When the writer of this article mentions spirituality he might mean a certain type of spirituality, or use the term in the way it is most commonly understood.<br />
I do also think, unfortunately, that many people misuse the term spirituality as what they&#8217;re doing is something different. This kind of misleads and confuses people and ruins words/language in my opinion. Perhaps also because as a society we&#8217;re not so focused on spiritual things we correspondingly lack words to describe the differences more accurately.</p>
<p>However, things beyond the ordinary, life beyond the body, feelings beyond what we normally feel, divine beings, supernatural events, inner change, a different way of perceiving life, a journey to reach higher things (etc.) do exist. And when talking about these things you can only use the known words that best describe it, if you want people to (kind of) understand what you&#8217;re saying.</p>
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		By: Josh Bertetta		</title>
		<link>https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-4073</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Bertetta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matthew writes: &quot;Turning spirituality – which offers a way to break free of this mess – into a focus of greed and self-indulgence is truly harmful&quot; is an agreeable statement, but what Mr. Osmund seems to presume (and I base such on his use of the Buddha, St. Francis, etc) is that &quot;spirituality&quot; is something  that could be applied to any one of those people he names. &quot;Spirituality&quot; and the &quot;spiritual&quot; are nebulous terms and this plasticity is something that the marketplace utilizes to its &quot;advantage.&quot; If one were to ask the Buddha &quot;are you spiritual?&quot; the question probably would not make sense. The whole idea of the spiritual/spirituality is an invention of enlightenment thinking (the term was coined in French, then picked up in English). It is category of modern thinking. The problem is that spirituality has become equated with the individual. Each individual has his or her &quot;own&quot; spirituality--his or her (and I have heard it defined as such many many times) own &quot;brand&quot; of spirituality. Moreover, as a modern category of thought and identity formation, as soon as someone says &quot;I am spiritual,&quot; that person is giving him/herself a label. And that&#039;s what spirituality is: just another label. No different than Polo or Ralph Lauren. And in many respects, it is a status symbol as well. How many times have you said yourself, or heard someone say, &quot;I&#039;m spiritual, not religious.&quot; There&#039;s an unstated hierarchy there and, in my opinion, an often unconscious arrogance there as well. Now how &quot;spiritual&quot; is that? Not very. Then again, maybe not. So has the marketplace usurped the spiritual? Sure it has. Why? Because it is just another commodity so why wouldn&#039;t the marketplace use it? Spirituality does not free one from the mess. Quite the contrary, it makes one even more unaware of participating in it--which is even more dangerous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew writes: &#8220;Turning spirituality – which offers a way to break free of this mess – into a focus of greed and self-indulgence is truly harmful&#8221; is an agreeable statement, but what Mr. Osmund seems to presume (and I base such on his use of the Buddha, St. Francis, etc) is that &#8220;spirituality&#8221; is something  that could be applied to any one of those people he names. &#8220;Spirituality&#8221; and the &#8220;spiritual&#8221; are nebulous terms and this plasticity is something that the marketplace utilizes to its &#8220;advantage.&#8221; If one were to ask the Buddha &#8220;are you spiritual?&#8221; the question probably would not make sense. The whole idea of the spiritual/spirituality is an invention of enlightenment thinking (the term was coined in French, then picked up in English). It is category of modern thinking. The problem is that spirituality has become equated with the individual. Each individual has his or her &#8220;own&#8221; spirituality&#8211;his or her (and I have heard it defined as such many many times) own &#8220;brand&#8221; of spirituality. Moreover, as a modern category of thought and identity formation, as soon as someone says &#8220;I am spiritual,&#8221; that person is giving him/herself a label. And that&#8217;s what spirituality is: just another label. No different than Polo or Ralph Lauren. And in many respects, it is a status symbol as well. How many times have you said yourself, or heard someone say, &#8220;I&#8217;m spiritual, not religious.&#8221; There&#8217;s an unstated hierarchy there and, in my opinion, an often unconscious arrogance there as well. Now how &#8220;spiritual&#8221; is that? Not very. Then again, maybe not. So has the marketplace usurped the spiritual? Sure it has. Why? Because it is just another commodity so why wouldn&#8217;t the marketplace use it? Spirituality does not free one from the mess. Quite the contrary, it makes one even more unaware of participating in it&#8211;which is even more dangerous.</p>
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		By: Paty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2014 21:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-859&quot;&gt;Chuck&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Chuck,

I too want to thank you for sharing your insights from past experience. I have never felt comfortable about the precepts behind LOA, it has always had a very selfish ring about it to me. It is all about ME, ME ME in the end and the person does not see reality objectively. And it seems your experience really confirms this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-859">Chuck</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Chuck,</p>
<p>I too want to thank you for sharing your insights from past experience. I have never felt comfortable about the precepts behind LOA, it has always had a very selfish ring about it to me. It is all about ME, ME ME in the end and the person does not see reality objectively. And it seems your experience really confirms this.</p>
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		By: Marissa		</title>
		<link>https://consciousreporter.com/conspiracy-against-consciousness/materialism-as-mysticism-subverts-spirituality-and-consciousness/#comment-2691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 05:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOA only works when it is for the benefit of others, or used to improve others&#039; quality of life.  That is what I experienced.  You have to go outside of yourself, it encourages altruism.  When you become an agent of love, then the universe responds.  Many people wonder why they practiced LOA and it didn&#039;t work? I think this is the reason.  Just MHO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOA only works when it is for the benefit of others, or used to improve others&#8217; quality of life.  That is what I experienced.  You have to go outside of yourself, it encourages altruism.  When you become an agent of love, then the universe responds.  Many people wonder why they practiced LOA and it didn&#8217;t work? I think this is the reason.  Just MHO.</p>
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